commodity inflation as it would reach to agriculture products would affect roughly eighty percent of the u.s. population so you don't have to go looking for were people in india to see how this beggar thy neighbor policy is going to affect people you just have to go to the middle classes and the lower middle classes of the united states to see how it's going to hurt them back in bel-air thanks so much for being on the kaiser report it's a pleasure being on thank you for having me all right that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy everett and with my gas cans on the lira if you want to send me an e-mail please do so at kaiser reported r t t v dot ru until next time this is max keiser saying bio. own home.

more years for wiggle leaks founder julian assange claim he could be facing time in guantanamo bay or even the death penalty. if he's tried in the u.s. this comes as he appears in court in the u.k. fighting swedish extradition warrant. portugal insists it does not need a bank bailout as it comes under pressure from germany and france to head off a potential euro zone crisis portugal is widely seen as the next euro zone

countries that will need to be bailed out after greece and ireland. breakers are reaching the last vessel for a fortnight in freezing waters off russia's far east coast more than three hundred people are on board the ship. those are headlines and i'll be back with more in about thirty minutes but up next we cross to our washington studio for some topical debate on the show. walking the alone a show will get the real headlines with none of the mercy or come alive to washington d.c. now today is the ninth anniversary of the first detainees arriving at guantanamo bay even though obama signed a bill to close the prison when he first came into office two years later prisoners are still there so why won't the government follow through ari perhaps unwilling to

face our own actions or to speak with lawrence wilkerson about the anniversary and today get most protesters took to the streets of d.c. just like they do every year but now they're protesting for the nine years straight are they finally getting discouraged we're going to speak with one of the protesters to get their take on this anniversary as well and the media's eyes were on julian assad today as arrangements were made before his extradition hearing next month but also is living in a mansion why is nobody focusing on bradley manning he's been held in solitary confinement since july so we're going to discuss the differences with kevin zeese also secretary of state hillary clinton made a surprise visit to yemen the first visit by secretary of state since one thousand nine hundred ninety but it's all the talk of civilian aid women's rights as i just as a structure from our shadow war are waging there and are chinese parents better than western parents a wall street journal article argues that point today saying that the parents who push their children harder when they're young all they help them become more

successful when they're older and it's causing a lot of heated debate but perhaps is a time for americans to wake up and put more emphasis on education we're going to discuss the cultural differences at the end of the show but now let's move on to our top story. nine years ago today the first detainees were brought to the detention facility at guantanamo bay cuba now currently there are still one hundred seventeen seventy three detainees there and it's become a scar on america's record when it comes to justice human rights but long before that guantanamo bay become a point of contention between the u.s. and cuba's fidel castro artes to have us has more. it's a place forever immortalized by images of torture known by its abbreviation get no america's notorious detention facility in guantanamo bay cuba has been the source of world condemnation where abuse lack of legal recourse and indefinite detention

is the norm it's also been the subject of decades of strife with cuban authorities who argue the forty five square mile military base violates cuban sovereignty and amounts to a military occupation the agreement under which the u.s. has a base on cuban soil to kuantan a military base. from earliest earliest years of the twentieth century the plot amendment was imposed following the us occupation of cuba after the spanish american war in one thousand nine hundred three it was extracted from the bench you've been government under under threat under duress and in clear contravention of international laws like the vienna convention the us government threatened to continue its occupation of cuba unless cuban authorities agreed to lease the land for america's military base indefinitely or for as long as it paid the cubans a yearly runs the rent check four thousand and eighty three dollars after the cuban

revolution swept the island nation one nine hundred sixty it's revolutionary leader fidel castro cashed only one check and he insists it was an accident no checks have been cashed sense and protest no such she would never be signed today no such treaty signed today would never be internationally recognized today the united states. will hunt down. and punish those responsible after nine eleven the bush administration swiftly turned its military base into a detention facility declassified documents show the u.s. government used cuban soil to evade national and international law to interrogate terror suspects a strategy journalist pepe escobar argues is convenient you can ship been to cuba and never bring them to the u.s. mainland and they are going to live there for ever in

a state of legal limbo most of the remaining one hundred seventy three prisoners at guantanamo bay have been detained there since the facility opened nine years ago awaiting a trial after not president obama recently signed away his right to bring detainees to u.s. soil making it unlikely that any of them will see a trial or freedom any time soon some argue the u.s. violates cuba sovereignty for this reason because this is the only latin american country for the past over this past fifty years has said you know then you straight to the eye of the american government or as they would say the american empire a country cubans believe should give rights to its detainees and give back their land that's right fully there you have half this our t. washington d.c. . on his first day in office obama signed an executive order to close guantanamo bay within one year almost two years later that order has not been fulfilled and

just before the new year in the lame duck session congress passed a bill in which the use of defense department funds for the transfer of detainees was barred and obama signed that into law so what's really going on here is our government too afraid to deal with its own actions here this case that with me is lawrence wilkerson retired u.s. army colonel and former chief of staff to colin powell. thank you so much for coming back on the shelf but i want to. back to it of we were saying this is nine years anniversary since the first detainees are brought to guantanamo bay if we go back to that if we go back to before when they first decided that detainees would be brought there that they know what they were doing what they were going to do with them that they know that they were going to torture them that this was a good way to avoid the law i think they knew a couple of things from very profoundly one was that they were putting them in extra legal territory if you will that is to say outside of any known jurisprudence system specifically outside ours the united states secondly they knew that final

disposition was donald rumsfeld said at the time a bridge will cross when we get to it and i think he very well knew that that bridge would be well after his term in office we are approaching something like that now what is final disposition to keep these people in jail for the rest of their lives when we started we had some thirteen year olds do we keep them forever there and and the third point is that they don't know what to do and the reason they don't don't know what to do in part is because of the mess the bush administration made of it no rules of evidence no trail of evidence no chain of evidence no protection of that chain no intent ever to bring them in in the any kind of criminal court system even the military system and therefore it's impossible to do it now with any kind of regularity consistency accuracy and decency so what do you do i mean you know you were part of this administration in some way right it was there ever this sense discussion that perhaps what they were doing was in some way wrong yourself as spoken about how they knowingly put people

in guantanamo bay who they knew were innocent where there was a long discussion about this that took place and what i call the statutory process that is to say the secretary of state secretary defense national security adviser dr rice and others what happened though was a fait accompli that is to say david addington the lawyer for dick cheney and dick cheney and with some complicity in the defense department in the attorney general's office simply said this is why it's going to be the. and it signed it february the seventh two thousand and two as i recall and that became the policy and it became a very draconian policy because it was implemented to the spirit of the addington cheney interpretation and not even to the spirit of what i think was the george w. bush into an interpretation which was we're not going to count al qaida and we're not going to count the taliban under geneva but we are going to treat them as with the spirit of geneva that simply didn't happen it certainly didn't happen at guantanamo but you think that there was always this idea that perhaps it wouldn't be their problem when it comes to closing guantanamo bay that wouldn't be their

problem when it comes to i know eventually deciding what to do with the detainees if the war is ever and they will never had an adult plan but that's always a part of our system of government because you can make something stretch out for four and even eight years if you try hard enough in this case though i think we actually had some people who were making decisions based on what they thought were the best who are in the best interest of the national security situation in the united states at this at this juncture terrorism and they made some very bad decisions and they did not listen to people like colin powell will taft his lawyer and other people i worked with human rights first organization and centers for victims of torture and others to accomplish the words that went into president obama's executive order i was extatic when president obama signed that executive order but at the same time there was a little bit of trepidation in me because i knew that it was not going to be an easy thing to do and i knew that president obama president elect obama didn't know

how difficult it was going to be because of this mess that the bush administration made he found out and now he's trying to do something about it as i would as i see it but he's not going to be able to do very much about it without simply making a decision to either release or to continue to incarcerate and attempt to develop a new system under which that incarceration takes place the congress could help him with that but i don't see it being humane and i don't see it being very legal in the long. because of the mists the bush administration made but then why doesn't he do it if so many people agree that wrong decisions were made and they've gone ton of obaid itself is wrong that we shouldn't have tortured people obama has the power he's the president of the united states he signed this executive order he doesn't necessarily need congress you know a lot of people are putting blame on the congress right now for barring defense department funds he could use department of justice funds he could five other ways to go around this he's trapped himself in to a certain extent his political party has helped draft him the democrats showing any ankle at all on

a national security issue particularly one that reverberates with the american people like this one look they wouldn't even let these people be tried in new york city i mean that's where they should have been tried or at least that that particular group of them especially collect shaikh mohammed because that's where the crime was perpetrated they wouldn't even allow that to happen because rush limbaugh and the right wing of my party gins up the american political fear so so greatly that you can't get anything done the democrats only wanted one trial and fads and then it was dark and i was already unfair for wessex very successful this is absurd it shows a great deal of of lack of political courage and moral courage on the part of the white house and i'm afraid it also shows that our political system is so damn dysfunctional that we can't get anything done to answer your question why they continue to do it because the easiest course of action they are out of anybody's legal jurisdiction. as was pointed out in your opening piece it's forever as far as cuba and guantanamo are concerned i'll be dead before one time it goes back to the

cubans so here we have a situation where you can just say put it off put it off put it off put it off and unfortunately that's what our government seems to like to do these days whether it's deficit or whether it's prisoners in guantanamo put it off tomorrow is another day it's almost like gone with the wind you know tomorrow is another day i was ashamed as an american that our government has something like guantanamo bay on its record and you know how can we still go around acting like we're the role model. if we were in the world like a tree should be looked up to we can't we we have lost so much of our prestige and so much of our leadership role in the general human rights effort in the world that it makes me sad to think about it i had a chinese colleague not too long ago who told me don't you ever talk to us about civil or about civil rights about human rights about human dignity or anything again because you are the number one violator i have cubans who talk to me about posada korea being in miami the man who brought down a cuban airliner and killed over seventy people when he did it the man who blew up

a hotel in havana and killed an italian citizen he's walking the streets of miami free we're harboring a terrorist he's on trial right now as we speak actually started yesterday but not on trial here not because there are minor minor infractions that i think it's a very quickly when are we going to see guantanamo close are we ever i don't think we're going to see a close in my lifetime i hope i'm wrong but i don't think we're going to see it close in my lifetime and i plan to live at least another decade or two but i held the i hope you're not wrong in the sense of loss and the clothes are that you are wrong thank you so much life for being here thanks for having me. what each year a group of activists comes to washington d.c. to protest guantanamo bay and the use of torture in front of the white house many of them dressed in orange jumpsuits to represent the one hundred seventy three detainees that are still being held there but after nine years to these activists still have hope that one day this person will close joining me to discuss it as witness against torture as protest organizer helen cheating or thank you so much

for being here today glad to be here now it's cold here in washington is going to say today it was going outside a lot of people of me sitting on their couches why did you decide why did you know the other group of activists that you're with why did you decide to go protest in front of the white house on the streets i think you and you articulated it beautifully i'm ashamed i'm ashamed to be an american with this stain on america's . set of actions so i had to be out there i felt really like it's something that i had to do because i really feel like i have to. open my mouth and really do something about this terrible injustice i'm horrified that this is what's happening now after nine years of doing this right and you go out every year and you protest against guantanamo bay aren't you discouraged a that the prison still has not been closed. there are hundreds of thousands millions of

people out there with you and further i guess yes i am but i have to continue and just maintain sort of the hope that other people will join us unfortunately i think that a lot of people just don't know. the american public really doesn't understand that these people are mostly innocent who are being detained in guantanamo they don't really understand. i don't think indefinite detention is illegal under american law been under. a lot of cuts on americans not carrying of if they think that anything goes in the name of fighting terrorism. but then. the the what's probably the problem with that is that then we become just as bad as what we consider the enemies and we have to as a nation rise a book that i mean this is the the frightening thing is that this is ministration

is continuing in the footsteps of the last administration there is very it's no different than it was under under president bush so we're asking for justice close guantanamo with justice now we're asking for. transparency to make sure it never happens again which thing it ouachita three entrances to the just as right or is that him are you going to fast we're fast and we're going to days do you start or that actually brings any change well fortunately you have me on your show i mean you're allowing people to listen to me talk about how concerned we are you had you've had a really good piece that's very educational that tells people the the real truth about guantanamo that hopefully will change some people's minds very quickly i also noticed that the men in the orange jumpsuits this year had pins on for bradley manning you're disgusting on this program why is he a part of this. he's

a part of this because we are concerned about anybody who's being unjustly detained anybody who's been bradley manning was speaking up just as we are he was speaking up for an injustice and he's being punished for it. we expect that. what people should do is speak up. against injustice this is what we're this is the reason people were punished under the nuremberg trials is because they did not they were active and then some people also have nothing. and said nothing today we're saying bradley manning has been in confinement solitary confinement since july we're actually going to go out later on the show choose it under international law considered to be inhumane torture people call it or it's called torture in hell or thank you very much for being here tonight my pleasure now still to come on tonight's show and social media outlets with a backbone night we say thank you to twitter for standing up to the federal government and we ask why more u.s.

companies don't follow their lead and julian assange appeared in a london court today to fight extradition back to saying that while the media spotlight continues to shine on a song bradley manning continues to languish in solitary confinement so why is the media silence when it comes to his skates. cultures the same understand what i mean and it's not always the most of the blank look in the more money around catastrophic earthquake haiti remains mainly in prospect bleak what is going wrong for this impoverished.

yesterday we first told you about how twitter took a stand against the feds and in defense of its users when the social networking site was presented with a court order to enter the gag order demanding the information of many wiki leaks supporters twitter did not apply in fact they took the unusual quarterback to court they request of the gag order be overturned so they then could alerts the clients who are being targeted and it turns out the court or tiled titled twenty seven zero three d. order was deemed insufficient by one federal appeals court and they claim that the twenty seven zero three d. order needs a second search warrant in order for companies to hand over the information about their clients but it also speaks to a much bigger issue here how twitter dealt with the court order compared to other

companies out there just think about it these are master card pay pal amazon all of those companies didn't want to take any heat from the government after the wiki leaks scandal broke out they cut off funding and access for weekly leaks almost immediately they caved to government pressure cut all ties with the whistle blowing web site and we can only imagine the companies like facebook or google probably have received similar orders from the government they have a lot more personal information on their users but we haven't heard about that but to witter decided to stand up to the government and reassure fashion they took their plea to court they protected their users from the government's overreaching and for that i give twitter's a big kudos companies always say that they're all about making their users happy keeping their privacy safe but who actually did it they protected their users from the feds in a professional manner so should we use twitter as a model company i for one think we should. well today julian assange

had a procedural hearing in a cordon england all preparations were put in place for an extradition hearing set for february seventh and eight and a songes legal team gave a skeleton argument of their defense today many centering on political motivations the questionable arguments for extraditing someone who has not been charged with a crime but added to that list was a concern that if extradited to sweden a songe faced a real risk of the death penalty or detention at guantanamo bay sweden or to hand him over to the u.s. neither of which seem all that farfetched especially if we turn our focus to bradley manning the twenty three year old army intelligence analyst suspected of providing the documents to wiki leaks all saunders on house arrest in a mansion manning has been held at the marine detention center at quantico virginia since july he's been held in solitary confinement under a protection of injury order where he stays in a cell for twenty three hours a day he's not permitted to exercise in the cell he's not even permitted to have

sheets he isn't allowed to sleep between five am and eight pm he's checked on every five minutes despite being under twenty four hour video surveillance and he's woken up at night and psychologists have written a letter to the secretary of defense robert gates outlining that solitary confinement has a broad range of psychological reactions by international standards it is inhumane considered torture but he's not receiving the media attention the songes to earlier i caught up with kevin zeese executive director and co-founder of voters for peace i first asked him why he thinks it is the mainstream media is more than happy to follow us on his every move of all strangely silent when it comes to bradley manning. well in the bradley manning case is not very well understood at this people understand that for example he could have sold all that information to iran to china to russia but he didn't and the reason he didn't because he is not a traitor he is sort of really believes the united states wants to make it a better country he sees these crimes being committed and wants to stop them if

people understood that in a more sympathetic view of where this young man was coming from and he they get more attention for it is his plight and he's being treated very poorly as you noted in your opening you know he's not being treated he's not getting anything and he's being treated worse than many people who have been convicted of a very serious crimes well that's why i think that there is at least a some kind of outrage here right i mean even if he's saying it doesn't matter if you think the bradley manning is a traitor or if you think that he's a hero the fact is that he's being held and completely and humane conditions and that's something that the americans of the media that everybody said protests no matter what side they're on here i'm with you on that and more and more people are protesting it back they'll be a protests that want to go on next monday when people will be down there to to you know let the public know about these conditions you know we've seen this coverage in the alternative media and in the like yours it does much better coverage in

a lot of the traditional form united states that has not been covered in new york times if not the governor washington post it's not being discussed it's not hard all the news that's fit to print i think once it is part of it i think you'll see a lot of outrage i was explore corresponding with somebody who thought bradley manning was a traitor we heard about how i was being confined and i was being treated he was opposed to them so i think you're right it doesn't matter he's a traitor not a confinement he's going through right now is brutal it's inappropriate and it's inhumane and it's probably illegal and they're you know they claim they're holy in solitary now for seven months for his own good well that's a kind of the address of an insane holy so an insult every seven months as not corazon good what they're really trying to do is pressure him break him so he testifies against. i don't mean it's going to happen was not the best but well i wasn't too proud of that but we should mention that yesterday at least the l.a. times did finally editorialize something about this story which was was nice you know it's refreshing to see somebody in the mainstream start to care about it in terms of history but you know a lot of people are saying that they're holding him in these conditions acting like

he's under suicide watch as if he's a threat although psychologists have said that is not a threat you know that is a method to break him down but do you think if it were to go to trial that the judges would actually accept then whatever his statement by it might be having you know we've seen at least and if you get mo trials where they did not take the testimony of witnesses because they were given you know after enhanced interrogation techniques for you stop them that's a that's a really good one to think that the military and the firm just missing they may find that because of the way they were treated fairly meaning that is just and will not be credible and may not even be accepted by the court as being allowed to eat or jury and he's socially is being tortured and you know that most of the world was going through it now is torture because not be seen as not being rulers in that way but being kept in solitary confinement for seven months is a former torture and there's effect on people think they're sure mind it's way to their soul to say things that wouldn't actually say all the words were legal that

was so i do think he really runs a risk the department of justice in the form of the parent's right a bad word is not a weak defense department or it is really doing things you know that undermines his credibility to and it may make him worthless for the prosecution. so in that sense when we hear julian assigned like he said today in london feel the fear that you know he's also at risk of giving being given not only the death penalty which we hear a lot you know with people from other countries or of going to get mo is he really that far off considering how are treating bradley manning outside of guantanamo bay right here in virginia. i'm not sure i'd be sent to get not but the united states justice system is a pretty brutal justice system we do treat a lot of prisoners in solitary confinement even outside want to go outside of bracket know there are supermax cells and i think that the first bizarre thing about the astonished case is they have a hard time finding anyone even.